DovieLR ([info]subtle_science) wrote,
@ 2007-07-27 13:16:00
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Harry Potter and the Deathly Plot-holes

[ETA:  I hadn't realized that this entry had been [info]daily_snitched until very recently, so I wanted to apologize to anyone whom I may have inadvertantly offended with the language.  I curse like a sailor in RL, and this was written on a rather spur-of-the-moment basis.  In my own defense, however, I did warn for language in the cut tag, although that warning didn't get carried over to the [info]daily_snitch.  So, again, sorry if I've offended anyone with my potty mouth.  ;-)]

Well.  Rowling was right about one thing:  many people loathe this book, myself included.  And it's not just because she killed Snape (although I've been crying all week over that).  I've said before that I could forgive her if she killed him, but not if she made him evil.  This load of garbage, however, is IMNSHO, Unforgivable (yes, with the capital "U").

There is so much to hate in this book that I hardly know where to begin.  The language, for starters.  I am ashamed — ashamed! — that I bought this book for my nephew.  Granted, he's 15 now, but I still squirm in embarrassment to think of the curse words he'll be reading on nearly every page, and I cringe at the thought of my brother calling to bawl me out for buying him this garbage.  I realize that the Trio are now adults and will now do more adult things (complete with drinking like fish, apparently), but before now I really admired how Rowling had tiptoed around the overwhelming majority of the bad language.  I will be the first to admit that I have characters using pretty harsh language in my fanfic, but not in anything with lower than an R rating.  With this book, however, Rowling chose to do what was easy rather than what was right, and it's sickening.

Not only that, but Molly Weasley has suddenly morphed into Sigourney Weaver ("GET AWAY FROM HER, YOU BITCH!"), and I really have trouble believing that someone who couldn't deal with a boggart, when third years could, would be able to take on a multiple murderer/pure sadist with such ease.  And if Ron can now speak Parseltongue because he heard Harry doing it, why couldn't Harry use Snape's musical countercurse to fix George's ear?  He's heard it once!  That should be enough.  :-P  Then there's Hermione Jean Granger.  For a woman who admits to having looked things up on the Lexicon to keep her facts straight, you'd think she could have taken two minutes to double-check Hermione's middle name.  Or her editor(s) could have.  Or maybe even her daughter could have reminded her.  Or she could have posted an anonymous question on any of a hundred fansites.  We would have been willing to help her.  Honestly!  And this is why I've never trusted interview "canon":  it's far too easy for Rowling to say one thing in an interview and then turn around and totally contradict it in the books.

Like, for instance, Rowling has said that there's no such thing as intentional wandless magic.  But Animagi contradict it (Sirius says in so many words that he couldn't drive the dementors away without a wand, but he could still turn into a dog), and Occlumency contradicts it (Voldemort would have been very suspicious if Snape had pulled his wand every time Voldie asked him a direct question), and Voldemort's childhood "experiments" contradict it (hurting animals and torturing other orphans), and I'm sure there are other pre-DH examples, but that's all I could think of off the top of my head.

As of DH, however, it appears that we can no longer trust Quidditch Through the Ages, either.  "No spell yet devised enables wizards to fly unaided in human form."  Except for adult Voldemort, and adult Snape, and nine-year-old Lily Sue.  Well, isn't that special?  *makes the Church Lady face*  Perhaps Voldemort and Snape have an excuse (i.e., one of them invented, and the other learned, the first flying spell).  And am I the only one who read "flying with triumph in his heart, without need of broomstick or thestral..." and thought, Voldemort can fly because he has a happy thought?  But there is no excuse whatsoever, at nine years old, for Lily Sue to be able to fly.  (I took three separate tests, and Lily scored well into the Mary Sue range for all of them, even reaching the "kill it dead" category on the last one, which is fitting, I suppose, since Lily is dead when the story starts.  Oh, and I double-checked to make sure I'd only done the categories that applied, so no — it wasn't a freakishly high score.  It was just a Lily Sue.)

Wasn't there supposed to be tons of snake lore in this book?  *waves hand in the air*  Please, Professor Rowling, I missed the bit on snake lore.  Could you go over it again?  Maybe it just got lost in the wandlore and all the deus ex machina bits.  And is it just me, or has Harry now become the Heir of Slytherin, after all?  If he inherited the Invisibility Cloak from one of the Peverell brothers, and Tom Riddle "inhereted" the Resurrection Stone from another, then both of them are descended from Salazar Slytherin, no?  (And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that James was a Parselmouth, too, but hid it from Lily.)

And Kreacher?  Has this amazing turn around because Harry shows him a little kindness.  What?  What?!?  What the fucking fuck?  First of all, Hermione had shown Kreacher nothing but kindness from the moment she met him (and good on her for it!), but Kreacher only dismissed her as a Mudblood.  It never even made a dent.  OK, so ... maybe it has to be the elf's rightful master, but you can't tell me that Dumbledore never showed Winky the slightest bit of kindness, can you?  (Well, maybe DH!Dumbledore, but not the Dumbledore I knew and loved before this.)  Winky is still hopelessly devoted to her dead master, however, rather than Dumbledore.  Kreacher is the last elf I would have expected to have such an amazing change of heart, and especially with so little build up.  It was emotionally hollow.  Completely.  In fact, "hollow" pretty much describes the entirety of the book for me.  The only death in the whole book that had any sort of emotional resonance for me (at the time) was that of a character I'd never heard of prior to opening the book.  It was poignant and heart-wrenching, and that first chapter as a whole made me cringe.  But of course, this could be because Rowling had originally intended to include the chapter at the end of HBP and her editors said she shouldn't.  (At least that's what I heard.  Not sure if it's accurate, but it would make more sense to me.)

Why on earth would Bill and Fleur name their child after Viktor Krum?  Of all the Tri-Wizard Champions, why not the one who died, or the one who saved her sister's life (in her words; Gabrielle was never in any real danger, as far as I can see)?  Granted, "Cedric" would be hard to feminize, but "'Arriet" eez a preety name, no?  And if goblins have such a jealous concept of ownership, why would they bother making objects for wizards in the first place?  I mean, if they're just going to sell them to wizards, and resent the fact that they've had to sell them to wizards for the life of the objects, why don't they simply refuse and find another way to support themselves — like, I don't know ... running the wizard bank, for instance?  ARGH!!!  'Cause as dumb as most wizards are, the goblins could be cheating them left and right and making a killing.  (Incidentally, why after all this time throw in a detailed description of Griphook that sounds so remarkably like Snape?  Is that supposed to be one last reminder that Snape is, in fact, ugly?  Yeah, we'd already figured that out, thanks.)

McGonagall casts Imperio on the Carrows to get them to walk over and hand her their wands?  Whatever happened to Expelliarmus?  When Lupin uses that spell in PoA, the Trio's wands fly toward him in a neat little arc, and he catches them.  Is McGonagall's arthritis so bad that she couldn't have caught them herself?  Or even used Accio or Stupefy?  Did she really need to use an Unforgivable to disarm them?  And it's gallant for Harry to Crucio someone?  Is this the same woman who said Dumbledore was too noble to use those powers Voldemort had?  How easily she sinks to Voldemort's level!  Oh, but I forgot:  It's fine and dandy for the good guys to do bad things; they're still good.  But even if the bad guys do good things (and I mean mainly Snape and Draco here), they will still never be good enough.

And Draco.  God!  I never liked Draco before HBP, but I thought she did a beautiful job of building up his (understandable) angst and desperation at having to try to kill Dumbledore to save his family.  It was probably the first crisis Draco had ever faced in his comfortable life, and it was a doozie.  What serving Lord Voldemort really means finally soaked in, and I ached for the poor boy throughout HBP, when I never really empathized with him fully before.  But then, Rowling threw it all away, turning Draco into a cardboard cutout of an aspiring Death Eater.  Oh, sure, she gives him a few flashes of things that could be considered insubordination if you squint, but nothing substantial.  Ball officially dropped, there.

How did Voldie get his wand back from Godric's Hollow?  This is never explained.  Maybe Peter went to retrieve it before he fled, maybe not, but why not say so?  And why can people see the Potter's house at all?  The Secret-Keeper is still alive (at least before subjected to Voldemort's Silver Hand of B-Movie Doom)!  That house should still be hidden from everyone whom Peter didn't personally tell about the location.  It certainly shouldn't have some weird monument that any passing witch or wizard can make appear.  And why was the house destroyed?  AK didn't do that to the Riddle House.  Why did Moody use Snape's Langlock curse in 12 Grimmauld Place?  From Snape's 6th year Potions book?  How the hell would Moody know that curse in the first place?!?  And why, oh why, didn't anybody from the Order notice that Snape is now a Secret-Keeper as well and 12 Grimmauld Place wasn't crawling with Death Eaters?  If Hermione knew that little tidbit of info, you'd think all those older and wiser witches and wizards might have had at least the merest inkling.  *headdesk*  *headdesk*  *headdesk*

While we're on the subject of Snape ... he started teaching at Hogwarts in autumn of 1981 at the latest.  (According to OotP, he'd been teaching 14 years in the autumn of 1995).  Yet, he and Dumbledore meet atop some unnamed windy hill in the middle of the night to discuss protecting the Potters?  Why not meet in the Forbidden Forest?  There are no leaves on the trees, so the time of year has to be autumn or winter, and it can't be 1980, because Dumbledore wouldn't have waited nine months to a year to send the Potters into hiding, and he wouldn't have bothered "hiding" them without the Fidelius Charm, performed in late October.  (The year also can't be explained as 1980 by Dumbledore's giving James and Lily three chances to defy the Dark Lord prior to going into hiding, because they would have already done that before Harry was born in July.)  So, whether or not Snape applied to Hogwarts on Voldemort's orders (and that would make sense, since one of Voldie's aims in DH is to take over Hogwarts), Snape was simply meeting with his employer.  Why the secrecy?  (And if secrecy is your aim, meeting on a hilltop is not your best bet.  Even with the Silencing Charm, people can still see you from every angle.  I thought these men were supposed to be intelligent!)  Why the nervousness and "Don't kill me!"?  And why would Dumbledore assume, from merely meeting with his employee, that said employee is delivering a message from Lord Voldemort?  Oh, look!  Another Flint!  Although, as Flints go, this one's pretty fucking major.  I'm not overly surprised, though.  Continuity, thy name is not Rowling.

And there's also the very large problem with Dumbledore's and Trelawney's versions of Snape's eavesdropping: the stories still don't tally.  If Snape was ejected from the building halfway through, Trelawney would never have known he was there, since she's not exactly aware of what's going on when she's making a prophecy.  She wouldn't have known they were "interrupted" by Snape, and she definitely wouldn't have described him as a "pushing, thrusting young man".  That sounds very much to me like Snape was trying to get into the room (to tell Dumbledore something), not being overtaken while trying to listen unobtrusively at the door.  'Cause if that is Snape's idea of eavesdropping, he would make a pretty crappy spy.  I think Rowling meant to have much more to this matter than meets the eye, but it turned out to be too complex, so she decided to rewrite history to go with the "Snape loved Lily" angle instead.  This discrepancy, like many others in the ever-growing list of Things That Are Never Explained, unfortunately had to fall by the wayside.  (In fact, I think Lily was originally given the choice to be spared because she was meant to be Peter's reward for turning Harry over to Voldemort, but Rowling changed horses in midstream.)

Before I go on, let me interject a caveat:  I fear this is going to come off sounding like I just want to hate on the Snape/Lily, when really, nothing could be further from the truth.  I stopped caring about shipping as such a long time ago.  I write what I like, shippy or no, and read what I like, without fighting with others about who should hook up with whom.  I would have embraced, even loved, the idea of unrequited Snape/Lily if it had been done well.  But the simple fact is, it wasn't done well, and it quite frankly made me want to vomit.  So it's not the Snape/Lily I object to, but rather Rowling's clunky handling of the Snape/Lily.  Pity, too, because the build up to and subsequent break down of the Harry/Cho dynamic was very believable in my mind, so she can write realistic romance when she tries.  And that, I think, is my main problem with DH (and the "romance" in HBP):  she just stopped trying.

If Snape was so in love with Lily Sue, I can see now why he was so anxious for Sirius to get kissed by the dementors in PoA, and why he wanted to be the one to catch Sirius, but what I can't see is why he would be so easy on Peter after he learns the truth.  Even if Voldemort placed Peter in Spinner's End to spy on Snape, Peter was responsible for Lily Sue's death, but the worst Snape can think of to do to Peter is make him serve drinks and clean his house?  WTF?  You can't tell me that Snape is a good enough Occlumens to fool Voldemort about everything else, but he couldn't "accidentally" kill Peter and get away with it, or Crucio Peter on a regular basis and modify his memory, or something else even more nasty.  If he sacrificed his whole life to avenge Lily Sue's death and holds grudges the way he does, he would exact his revenge on Peter, some way or another.  I'm sorry, but he would.  As it is, however, it reads like Snape is only taking pleasure in making Peter's life miserable for egging James on in his bullying, and the Snape/Lily Sue angle was an afterthought.

And the doe Patronus is so stupid on so many levels.  First, I resent the implication that Lily was meant to be nothing more than James' mate, and that was the sum total of her importance.  *glares*  And if that's the case, since James' Patronus is a nose-biting teacup, wouldn't hers be a nose-biting teacup that wears lipstick?  (Because from this misogynistic viewpoint, Lily is the accessory, not James.)  Second, why would Lily's doe have been Snape's "protector" in the first place (which is what a Patronus is supposed to be), when she seems to have been anything but (more on this in a bit)?  Third, a doe to represent Lily has no significance whatsoever until Harry summons his first Patronus at 13.  And yet, Snape's Patronus has always been a doe.  Always.  Since before Harry was born.  The stupid, it burns!

And why would Snape have disagreed with Harry on the best way to fight dementors?  That's another item on the exceedingly long list of Things That Are Never Explained.  Nearly everyone assumed that Snape couldn't summon a Patronus because he didn't have enough happy thoughts (and if the miserable life Rowling has given him is any indication, he wouldn't have been.  For Snape, it has very much been "Life sucks, and then you die").  And excuse my ignorance, but when exactly did Harry see Lily summon a Patronus, to know that hers was a doe?  Did Snape not want to summon a Patronus in front of the other Death Eaters because supposedly doe = Lily and they'd know he was Dumbledore's man?  Puh-lease!

That's especially stupid considering that Voldemort knew of the Lily Love all along.  And if Snape and Voldemort "agreed" that there would be more women, with purer blood, who were more worthy of Snape, I have to ask:  When exactly did they agree on this?  When Voldemort was bodiless and hiding in Albania?  When he was hitching a ride in the back of Quirrell's head?  Did Snape have long talks with diary!Voldemort, who didn't even know he existed, much less Lily?  Or after he'd returned to his body and failed to kill Harry for the third time?  I have a great deal of trouble believing that after 14 years of being without a body and suspecting Snape of disloyalty, Voldemort's priorities included finding out whether or not Snape was getting laid.  Isn't it touching that Voldemort is such a kind and considerate evil overlord that he would ask about Snape's love life?  I never knew he cared!

Also if the Death Eaters did know that doe = Lily, then Lupin's security question in The Advance Guard in OotP is even more stupid, because all the Death Eaters would also know that stag = James, so any bloody one of them could have answered that question correctly (in addition to anyone who attended the Gryffindor/Ravenclaw Quidditch match in PoA).  And you can't tell me that Snape never sent Dumbledore a message, so that Dumbledore had to ask "After all this time?"  Mind going, old man?  Didn't he send you a doe Patronus laden with a message just last week?  Oh, and why didn't anybody ever taunt Snape about this unrequited love?  The list of people who would have done that is almost endless:  Bellatrix, for starters (and there's no excuse for her not to, since she could have called Lily "that Mudblood" and given very little away), Sirius, James, Peter, etc., etc., etc.  They couldn't all have been sworn to secrecy about it (especially not Sirius and Peter, who were in Azkaban and in hiding, respectively).  But no.  The only one who taunts Snape about it is Saint Dumbledore.  *gouges eyes out*

And why was Lily's letter to Sirius at 12 Grimmauld Place, when it should have been in his flat (the one he got after he ran away)?  For that matter, why was Lily writing Sirius, instead of James writing him?  And if the letter was there, why didn't Sirius show it to Harry in OotP?  I can understand Dumbledore keeping secrets and outright lying (especially this one, since he swore to), but I can't understand everyone else doing it for him.  In 17 years, no one let Snape and Lily's friendship slip?  Not even Hagrid?  I don't buy it.  For that matter, why didn't Snape let it slip?  Because he couldn't "bear" for Potter's son to know?  Bull!  Snarry writers aside, there's most definitely no love lost there.  I could easily see him shouting out — in a fit of anger — that Harry's mother was his best friend until that horrid James Potter poisoned her mind against him (even if that wasn't, strictly speaking, the truth, because he would have convinced himself that it was).  He would have loved to rub it in, wouldn't he?  That's how he operates.  He loves to disillusion Harry, especially with the "truth."  Well, at least that was how Snape operated before DH.

Rowling's choice to gloss over Snape's Worst Memory, I will admit, did not sit well with me.  But I realize now that she couldn't go into any detail without exposing DH as the glaring patchwork piece of stupid that it is, so she had to gloss over it, hoping that we'd forget and simply swallow the load of tripe she was trying to spoon feed us.  In my first re-read of The Prince's Tale, I pulled out OotP to place Snape's Worst Memory in its proper context.  And I was ... well, appalled, to put it mildly.  I seriously hope the Snape/Lily idea occurred to Rowling after writing OotP, because if it didn't, I really don't much care for her notion of friendship (and this would also explain why Lily's part was conveniently removed from Snape's Worst Memory in the OotP movie).  But let me explain.  First, Snape and Lily don't leave the Great Hall together.  That doesn't exactly scream "best friends" to me, especially compared to the other sets of "best friends" we know about:  Except for when Ron's jealousy gets the better of him, the Trio are inseparable, and even Madam Rosemerta said of James and Sirius that you never saw the one without the other.  That is how best friends act, not leaving the Great Hall so far removed from one another that the casual observer (Harry, in this case) wouldn't think they know each other.

Second, James makes sure that the scene is visible to the girls by the lake before he gets too far into tormenting Snape.  It wouldn't do to let all his effort go to waste, would it?  This would seem to indicate that James has no idea Snape and Lily are friends.  Oh, James knew they were "friends" on the Hogwarts Express their first year, and it was still a bit rocky then, because Lily blames Snape for Petunia's hating her, even though it wasn't exactly Snape's fault.  [Gee, that sounds familiar.  I guess Dumbledore was right:  Harry's deepest nature is more like his mother, huh?  I doubt Snape got the idea to go into Petunia's room all on his own, and it was still "we saw that letter from Dumbledore" (emphasis mine).  But it's all Snape's fault, isn't it?]  Since then, they have given no indication that they're close (and certainly not inseparable), so James apparently takes this to mean they've had a falling out.  How do I know this?  Because if James thought otherwise, he wouldn't think he was going to make points with Lily by attacking her best friend.  Think about it.  If this were Draco Malfoy, who harbored a secret crush on Hermione, do you think he'd imagine Hermione would consent to go out with him if he publicly humiliated Harry?  I'm thinking no.  ;-)

Third, from the second Lily arrives on the scene to when she finally gets her wand out is nearly a page and a half, and then she only tells James to take the curse off Snape himself.  She doesn't even raise her wand to cast Finite Incantatum, although both James and Sirius eye her wand warily, so she's obviously a powerful witch.  Meanwhile, her supposed "best friend" is immobile on the ground, choking on soap bubbles.  Nice.  She could have stopped it herself, but she apparently chose not to.  She seems far too concerned with putting James Potter in his place and not nearly concerned enough about the fact that her "best friend" can't bloody breathe!  And then, when James hauls Snape into the air to show off his undies, Lily tries not to smile.  She tries not to smile.  At her "best friend's" public humiliation.  And all this is before Snape ever calls her a Mudblood.  I simply cannot imagine Hermione allowing Harry to go through this much torment before casting some spell — any spell — to put a stop to it, and I certainly can't imagine Hermione's "furious" expression transforming so quickly into trying not to smile.  I'm not so sure if I'd been in Snape's place that I wouldn't call her a Mudblood, too.  I mean, with "friends" like that, he really doesn't need enemies.

Despite her reassurances to the contrary in the previous memory, Lily doesn't seem to consider Snape her "best friend."  In fact, she appears to be a little ashamed to admit she knows him in public, and is amused by his predicament, regardless of her pretense of trying to protect him.  In the memory immediately before this one, in which Lily makes the declaration that she and Snape are best friends (sorry — she and Sev), the two are conspicuously alone.  Taken together, this doesn't sound like two friends who have grown apart over the years.  It sounds like a pretty, popular girl deciding she can do better than the geeky hanger-on she picked up in childhood, and the two are not the same thing.  Not hardly!  Add to that the "cheeky answers" she gave Slughorn when he said she should have been in Slytherin.  That says Lily was putting down her supposed "best friend's" House on an almost daily basis, within earshot.  Blech.  Some "best friend."  Along with the other Prince's Tale memories, I'm not getting too flattering a picture of Lily — especially since she ignores Petunia's absolute terror at the moving flower.  No, it wasn't hurting her physically, Lils, but your sister was obviously scared out of her mind, and you dismiss it.  Not too great a sister, either, were you?  No wonder Petunia hated magic so much.

I have the impression that Lily was all too eager to pump Snape for information before they went to school (after all, he was her only link to the magical world she would soon be entering), and she didn't know anyone there yet.  Once she arrived at school, however, she quickly became popular and had less and less time for Snape.  I'm sure she still talked to him during school holidays, if only to annoy Petunia, but the Mudblood comment appears to have merely given her the excuse to end a friendship she no longer wanted to maintain anyway.  And while we're on the subject ... Snape was willing to sleep outside the Fat Lady's portrait until Lily came out to talk to him, which is pretty gutsy on his part, considering what James and Sirius would have done if they'd come upon him unawares.  Clearly, he still values their "friendship," even if it is entirely one-sided (as it certainly appears to be).  Yet Lily refuses to listen to him.  She has spoken to him about his other friends before, and he defended them (or at least deflected the blame, because they, at least, didn't mind being seen with him), so I can understand that she might be miffed.

But here's the thing:  when she accuses Snape of wanting to become a Death Eater, Rowling again glosses over the fact that Snape is speechless.  Or, more importantly, why he's speechless.  There's absolutely no indication of Snape's expression at this point (and this being a third-person Pensieve memory, there's really no reason for that).  Lily just plows on in lecturing him.  Did it never occur to her that maybe, just maybe, her words were finally soaking in?  Maybe that Snape might have realized she had a point, and all the racist talk his friends were spouting wasn't just talk?  That it might spell real danger for someone he cared about immensely?  Because I'm sure his friends' talk wasn't confined to flinging slurs, but rather had a violent undercurrent that he had tried to laugh off before then.  Instead of pressing a possible advantage, however, and bringing her supposed "friend" back from the brink, Lily chooses — both literally and figuratively — to turn her back on Snape.

Now, I'm not trying to minimize Snape's responsibility in becoming a Death Eater, because ultimately he chose to take the Dark Mark.  But if Rowling intended to paint Lily and Snape as best friends all along, and especially in OotP, she did a lousy job of it.  And if Lily was supposed to be Snape's best friend, I can only imagine what he must have been thinking (since, you know, he was choking and couldn't talk):  She's supposed to be my friend, but she's much more interested in telling Potter off than helping me.  Oh, but helping him herself would have betrayed that she really did consider him a friend, and James and Sirius might have teased her about fancying him, like the "Oooooo" on the Hogwarts Express.  Lily couldn't have risked anything that might make people think she really liked Snape.  It would ruin her reputation.  (And don't say that Lily has been "making excuses" for Snape for years.  I know that's what she claims, but we don't see it, so I don't believe it, any more than I believe she considered Snape her "best friend."  If anything, she's probably been making excuses to herself, out of guilt, as to why she shouldn't cut him loose, and most likely not to her friends.)  And you can't tell me that petty, vindictive Snape would continue to worship Lily for twenty years after her death, when she married his nemesis.  When love turns to hate, it is a terrible thing to behold.  Snape would, I think, hate Lily even more than he hated James after that, and the Mudblood comment may have just been the beginnings of that.  I certainly don't see him pining for her and doe Patronusing for her 20 years later.  *shrug*  But maybe that's just me.

Furthermore, if Snape spent all his time as a child stalking watching Lily, when would he have had time to learn/invent all those curses that half the 7th years didn't know, not to mention all the potion experimentation?  And, if Snape was "famous" for his fascination with the Dark Arts at school, then why the reprimand about Snape's friends using the Dark Arts?  Why wasn't Lily getting onto Snape for using them?  Apparently, he'd been using them all along!  She didn't seem to have trouble standing up to him otherwise, did she?  Oh, and the assertion that while James and Sirius weren't all that great, they still didn't use the Dark Arts?  Patently false.  They use Dark Arts spells they stole from Snape on him while Lily watches (and does relatively little), in addition to using a relatively harmless spell (Scorgify) to choke Snape (which is Dark in intention).  Plus, the "illegal hex" James and Sirius used on Bertram Aubrey sounds a lot like Dark Arts to me, and James "hexing anyone who annoys [him] just because [he] can" makes it sound like a fairly common occurrence.  But, of course, we are told (not shown) that James is good, so what he actually does is irrelevant.

Forget that rubbish about our choices defining us.  The only choice that ever matters is the one the Sorting Hat makes.

And that crack Dumbledore makes about sorting too soon ... "Yeah, Severus — you're almost brave enough to have been a Gryffindor (and therefore, worthy)."  On the eve of Snape's having to go back to Voldemort and beg forgiveness for not showing up earlier, knowing full well that his tardiness might get him killed, that is a particularly stinging slap in the face.  At least Rowling had the sense to make Snape look stricken.  Because his potential sacrifice then, on that night, was just as monumental as Harry's:  facing death in order to save others.  And not just to save his friends, as Harry does, but for people who loathe him, as well.  In fact, Snape has been fighting against his friends, on the side of people who despise him, all along.

I've seen a few people groping in vain to try and find some meaning in Snape's seemingly meaningless death, but I'm pretty sure I know what the meaning behind this tripe is:

DH was Rowling's final "Fuck you!" to all the Snape fans.

She warned us not to like the "bad boys."  Never mind that Sirius Black — whom she adored — had a flying fucking motorcycle.  If that doesn't scream "Bad Boy Syndrome," I don't know what possibly could.  It's a testament to her lack of skill as a writer:  The harder she tried to make us hate Snape, the more we loved him, and it apparently bugged the crap out of her, so she decided to kill him in the most ridiculous, useless way possible.  Well, I suppose it could have been more ridiculous if he'd tripped on his robes and stabbed his wand into his own brain (with Harry instinctively knowing that he had to pull the wand out to extract the memories), but that's not much worse than what actually happened.

This book was also crying out for another confrontation between Harry and Snape, in which Snape inexplicably didn't hurt Harry, again, and didn't take him to Voldemort, planting a seed of doubt that would have made the memory regurgitation reversal of everything Harry had ever thought about Snape more palatable.  But too complex, so it didn't happen.  *sigh*  Instead we get the silver doe.  I mean, how hard would it have been to have Snape and the Trio meet up in the tunnel, silently raising their wands, when Voldemort calls to Snape from the Shack.  Then Snape hisses at the Trio to be quiet and keep the cloak on, and he heads up the tunnel.  The Trio follow and see the scene as it unfolds, and voila!  Harry is more inclined to believe the memories (and it would also mirror PoA well).  But as it is, Harry, who has hated Snape with a fevered passion for years, looks at Snape's memories and suddenly decides — without a moment's doubt or introspection — that Snape was good because he wuved Lily Sue?  "Right.  He loved my mum.  He must've been a bloody hero, then!"  That didn't even convince me, and I've thought Snape was good — not even ambiguous — all along!

The death itself:  still pointless.  Dumbledore warned Snape about the Nagini thing a year before, but he didn't see fit to warn Snape that Voldemort might try to kill him because of the Elder Wand?  He'd suspected it since GoF, but he didn't think that was a useful bit of information for Snape to have?  Poor Severus, my arse!  Poor Rowling, more like, having a character she didn't like garner so much attention (that should have rightfully been Harry's).  *growls*  But even that isn't as horrid as how Snape is treated in death:  No portrait.  Even if Voldemort made him Headmaster, Snape did everything he could to serve that school and protect the students.  No posthumous Order of Merlin, even though Peter got one, and as far as we know, it was never revoked.  Not even a proper burial.  Even Voldemort's body was moved to a separate location to keep it away from the "good" corpses, while Snape's is left in the Shrieking Shack to rot?  How fitting to leave him in the tunnel where Rowling probably wished (now) that she'd let him die as a teenager!  I can't even wrap my head around the disrespect there, it is so unbelievably massive.  At least she had the decency to have Harry shout out in front of hundreds of witnesses that Snape was a Good Guy.  But, of course, it wasn't for Snape.  At all.  It was only to demoralize Voldemort.  *tears hair out*  But at least the Boy Who Lived (yet again) and Always Hated Snape used Snape's name as the middle name for his middle child.  What a tribute.  Whoop-di-fucking-do.

And after all the lengths Voldemort went to ensure his immortality, he ends up killing himself?  *blinks*  *shakes head*  *blinks again*  The mind.  It boggles.  But we couldn't have sweet, innocent, wonderful Harry sully his hands by killing even the most evil wizard who ever lived.  He's not even avenging his parents' deaths, this way.  It's a complete and utter gip!  And it's not like his hands remained lily (pardon the pun) white throughout the book.  He's already casting Unforgivables.  Why not AK, too?

Now, for the crapilogue:  Is it just me, or does the crapilogue take place in 2017 (19 years after 1998)?  Is this just another demonstration of Rowling's inability to do arithmetic?  Although I have to ask, if the most she can tell us about their lives is who got married and popped out babies, why did they wait so long?  James appears to be at least a second year, which would mean he was born when Harry was 25, but he's 17 at the end of DH.  If Ginny is soooooo perfect for him, and itching to get back together with him, why did they wait 8 years to get hitched and breed?  And then there's the utter creepiness of naming brother-and-sister after husband-and-wife.  *shudders*  But I shouldn't be surprised, since Ginny is just the Oedipus complex made flesh.

This hasn't been "researched," as such, except for looking up Snape's Worst Memory for comparison.  It's not my intention here to argue the finer points of canon, because that would require re-reading DH, and I am most certainly not up for that (and probably won't be any time soon).  Therefore I'm sure a number of my conclusions are erroneous.  But frankly, I don't care.  I'm angry, and I wanted to get it out of my system, so that I can hopefully (someday) let it go.  And now I'm going to go do something more productive than rant.  ;-)




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[info]biichan
2007-07-27 09:56 pm UTC (link)
*HUGS* Go join [info]deathtocapslock and bitch with us. We have cookies.

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[info]anaid_rabbit
2007-07-29 04:29 pm UTC (link)
I second that. All our cookies for DovieLR!

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[info]arionrhod
2007-07-27 10:33 pm UTC (link)
BRAVO. All I can say is you nailed it on the head, every bit of it. EVERYTHING about the Snape/Lily (and, IMO, Remus/Tonks) was grafted on at the last minute as she made an effort to "wrap up" things. And it FAILS, massively. :( Sucks so hard. Thanks for writing this, it so needed to be said!

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[info]ellid
2007-07-27 10:38 pm UTC (link)
This is brilliant. Thank you!

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[info]dancingskeleton
2007-07-27 11:02 pm UTC (link)
I think....it would be a good idea for all these absolutely BRILLIANT rants about DH to be mailed to JKR. Sure she'll probably ignore them...but..the thought?
I just would like to see her face when soemone flat out tells her all of this, which is ABSOLUTELY true.

Have I mentioned lately that you're my hero?

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[info]babydraco
2007-07-27 11:03 pm UTC (link)
Ball officially dropped, there.

She never gave him any. Apparently, Harry and Ron couldn't spare any for any other characters.

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[info]mingbutterfly
2007-07-27 11:46 pm UTC (link)
I've tried to salvage something good from this book about Snape because, as grasping-at-straws as it sounds, I believe he transcended the way she tried to write him. (Though he deserved much more.)

So I found myself nodding in agreement (and bursting out in laughter) throughout this essay. You are awesome!

When I first read the book, I was moved by what looked like a pure, selfless love on Snape's part for someone who had been dead a long time and so could never reciprocate, and treated him as expendable when she was alive. Then Rowling went on (international?) TV and said Snape was a bad person after all. So I'm comforting myself with your marvelous essay and an ever-deeper understanding of the intentional fallacy.

Thank you for being wonderful! :-)

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[info]snapesforte
2007-07-28 12:20 am UTC (link)
This is one of the best DH reviews I've come across. It points out all the canon and character rape nicely ...

I could have, perhaps, suspended my disbelief if Molly Weasel had used one of her potato-skinning or bread-chopping spells on Bellatrix, but seeing as she seems incapable of conquering a few garden gnomes without Gilderoy Lockhart's sage advice, ah, no ...

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[info]mmoa
2007-07-28 01:01 am UTC (link)
OMFG I LOVE YOU!

See, I went the opposite route and tried to repress my frustrations - I was quite proud of myself, I carefully analysed and theorised and tried to be completely canon. It worked... some of the time (as you can tell from my own lj) but 'some' is nothing like 'all'.

To be honest, the Snape thing I can deal with, because JKR doesn't like him, so whatevs/okay fine, I'll swallow to whatever she says/writes. But the hundred minuate that added up to one colossal plot hole? Hm. Another matter.

On the epilogue: Harry and Ron as aurors (according to a later interview with JKR)? Hell, throughout DH, Harry barely comes up with a spell and leaves Hermione to do all the actual magic. He reminds me of the really smart kids in class who don't read much: I'm sure Harry might be magically powerful, but he sure doesn't want to use it, or even express an experimental interest in it now, does he?

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[info]marionros
2007-08-12 02:34 pm UTC (link)
The thought of Harry as Auror scares me... His lack of drive to do *anything* is positively dangerous in an officer of the law.

To quote Daniel Hemmens:

"His very lack of personality, of drive or motivation, is held as his greatest and most admirable virtue.

This strange situation goes right back to the first book. In Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, Quirrel is unable to find the stone, because when he looks into the Mirror of Erised, all he sees is himself handing the stone over to Voldemort. The mirror spies into his mind, and determines his true motivation for wanting the stone, and finds him lacking. Harry, however, looks into the mirror, and sees himself finding the stone. Dumbledore later explains that "only one who wished only to find the stone, find it and not use it" would be able to pass that particular test.

Now by itself, there's nothing wrong with that. It's a standard children's fantasy setup: the magical doohickey looks into your heart and sees that you are Good and True and Pure, and you win. In the context of the wider series, however, it sets a strange precedent. Harry is able to find the Philosopher's Stone because he has no motivation for looking for it in the first place, and this continues throughout the series, and is singled out as the quality which makes Harry a "better man" than the other characters.

Throughout the series, the most noble reason for any course of action is no reason at all. Harry seeks the Deathly Hallows because he thinks it might maybe be what Dumbledore was expecting him to do. And according to Dumbledore, had he sought them for any other reason, he would not have been worthy to find them. When Dumbledore tried to unite the Hallows, he was actually trying to achieve something, and therefore proved himself unworthy.

Harry spends seven years doing what he thinks other people might expect him to. He's utterly passive. The piece de resistance in this directionless saga is, of course, Harry's "sacrifice" at the "climax" of the seventh book. Having seen in the pensieve that Dumbledore intended for him to be killed by Voldemort, he immediately decides to lay down and die. Rowling, apparently, views this as the height of courage. The act of a True Gryffindor. I view it as utterly craven.

JK Rowling seems to view "courage" as the quality which allows you to accept the world as you find it. Now if we were talking about things which genuinely were beyond your control, that would be one thing, but Potter is a hero, and the protagonist of the stories. He is supposed to be changing the world (and according to Rowling's later interviews, he totally does, after the books end).

Harry goes willingly to his death, not to protect anybody, not to save the world, not to destroy Voldemort, but because somebody tells him he's meant to. It's pathetic. But in the afterlife, Dumbledore heaps praise upon him, and tells him that he has become the true "Master of Death" because he killed himself on instruction.

The flip-side to Harry's passive Gryffindor "courage" is of course the "ambition" of House Slytherin. Many fans were deeply upset that the Slytherins all abandoned Hogwarts in the final fight: "they were supposed to be ambitious, not evil" is a common complaint. To Rowling, however, ambition is evil in and of itself. Actual desires, actual motivations, are reprehensible things. No action is pure unless it is motivated by a nonspecific sense of duty.

Harry, on the other hand, shows a similar blind loyalty, not only to Dumbledore, but increasingly to a spurious and nebulous sense of "should be" and this is what makes him a "better man" than Dumbledore. JK Rowling glorifies her hero for having no personality, and tells us that his blind following of the plot makes him a great man.

Like fuck."

Daniel Hemmens gives a wonderful chapter-by-chapter reading at
http://ferretbrain.com/articles/article-146.html
and
http://ferretbrain.com/articles/article-147.html
and
http://ferretbrain.com/articles/article-148.html

and gives a concluding article at:

http://ferretbrain.com/articles/article-149.html

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[info]gail_b
2007-07-28 01:05 am UTC (link)
Wow - and you mainly stuck to the Snape stuff - there's so much more than what you focused on.

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[info]jezebel_haddo
2007-07-28 10:31 am UTC (link)
I know I was sitting two feet away from you the whole time you wrote this, but thank you still. Thank you for not sheepishly accepting this book. Thank you for showing Snape more respect in one sentence than Rowling has ever shown him. Thank you for having the courage to speak out. And thank you most of all for supporting me throughout this immense grief that, even if it diminishes in time, will never really go away. I love you, my kochanie, my Snape.

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[info]hagia_sophia
2007-07-28 02:04 pm UTC (link)
That was a brilliant rant, even though I don't agree with everything you say. Just a word in defence of Bill and Fleur. I don't think they named their daughter after Viktor Krum, and, frankly, I'm surprised at this interpretation (you are not the only one who seems to think so, it's a very popular opinion for some reason). Victoire is 'victory' in French. That's all there is to it: they gave this name to their child to commemorate the victory over Voldemort.

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[info]xaviere_jade
2007-08-03 01:59 am UTC (link)
Yes!

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[info]maelwaedd
2007-07-28 02:41 pm UTC (link)
I was keeping a running tab of the especially brilliant bits to quote back at you in appreciation. Then it got too long.

Word. To everything.

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[info]mimine
2007-07-28 04:39 pm UTC (link)
OMFG!! I love you so much for this essay it hurts! I've been thinking that I must have been taking crazy pills all this time to hate DH so much esp. in what has to do with Snape and you just nail it so well!

Thank you for exposing Lily Sue and for everything else! I want your disgruntled DH hating babies right now!

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(Anonymous)
2007-07-29 12:02 am UTC (link)
Hurrah, you go girl! I love all these goody-goodies who are simply appalled at fandom entitlement to despise this book... to them I say please, who is JK Rowling, your mother?

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[info]raendrop
2007-07-29 03:10 am UTC (link)
Dovie! It's been far, far too long. How are you? What are you up to?

And, as usual, your thoughtful, insightful analysis makes me feel completely stupid by comparison. I guess all I can say is baaa?

You do say some things I'd sort of been thinking, although not quite to that degree. I have thought for quite some time that JKR doesn't seem to understand the very universe she herself has created.

I suppose this is what fanfic is for, eh? Put right what the author got wrong.

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-16 01:50 pm UTC (link)
HEy ... so Fanfics are like Quantum Leap? :)

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(Anonymous)
2007-07-29 04:31 am UTC (link)
I don't mean to be rude with this, because you make some valid points, but if you don't mind, I'd like to share some of my thoughts on your rant. I'm copying/pasting this from AOL Instant Messenger, where I was discussing this with someone. I'll have to post it in segments, because I'm long-winded.

(1) Molly was totally deserving in her "GET AWAY FROM HER, YOU BITCH!"
Molly's family, despite being pure blood, has been the victim of enough investigations and ridicule on all sides, and then to taunt her of all things on the death of her children and her family, which we saw in one of the books to be her worse fear.
(2)you have a point about wandless magic, even kids can produce magic on accident, that's typically how people find out they have magical powers, is when they're not controlling themselves
(3)although I don't agree with comparing Lily to a Mary Sue character. That would be, if anything, Hermione, who Rowling herself has confessed to using to bring attention to issues she feels are important, like class equality.
(4)I don't recall a mention that the Peverell brothers were related to Salazaar Slytherin, if I missed that then please let me know where it was, but you do bring attention to a very key detail that has been missed in this story, or at least I missed it. How was the stone passed down through history? How did it finally end up in Voldemort's hands to be made into a horcrux, and then in Dumbledore's hands?
(5) I wouldn't say Victoire is named off of Viktor Krum, I don't see enough evidence to support that aside from their names being similar. Yes, he was invited to their wedding, but he didn't seem to have that strong of a relationship to Fleur in the books. But yes, I don't see why goblins would give up their precious treasures to humans to keep, but they do seem keen on believing that humans are merely *renting* their items, and probably expect to see their creations returned to them someday. After all, with their banking experience, goblins seem to consider themselves wise businessmen. Er, business goblins :P :P
(6) I loved the moment McGonagall Imperiused the two death eaters. She wouldn't just send their wands flying, she has too much style for that. And two unforgivable curses coming from two "good" characters is fine for me because they're doing it to protect each other, which I'm sure is what Rowling wanted their relationship to become. There have been hints and signs enough for it, and to have McGonagall be the one to unleash the most mournful wail at seeing Harry's "body" mandates that they reach this point with each other.
(7) I can see Rowling's goal with the Malfoys, but I agree that there was a step missing between Narcissa and Draco's treatment of Harry in book 6 and where it came to in book 7. I understand that she was moving towards that deep into book 6, with the way Voldy was treating the Malfoys, but yes, there was some serious development lacking there to give it the full effect. It didn't feel *earned* enough.

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-12 03:36 pm UTC (link)
A-fucking-men!

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part 2
(Anonymous)
2007-07-29 04:32 am UTC (link)
(8)Rowling didn't delve much into it, but I can understand how the house in Godric's Hallow go to be the way it was. It's been absent for 16 years now, and houses need living presences inside them to keep them from collapsing. Just see what happens to a house when it's been uninhabited for years. People don't take care of the upkeep, it falls apart, it's something I can understand. I can also understand how they didn't have their house hidden all the time when they lived in a wizarding community, but I can understand your concern for them wanting to hide if they knew they had been marked by Voldy, as I believe was suggested in Prisoner of Azkaban, for making Peter their secret keeper. Sorry if I'm getting the book and movie screwed up, though.
(9) I had an issue with most of your comments about Snape. I'm heavily biased in favor of him, but as I do have a Bachelor of Arts in English, I can't believe in any claim without ample evidence to support it. Snape was willing to betray his deepest darkest beliefs to the core in order to honor someone he once loved, and risk his life to protect someone he hates, for that same purpose, and that takes an incredible individual. I think if Snape grew up in a loving home like James, where he had attention and respect and didn't watch a muggle and a witch fight all throughout his childhood, he would have become a completely different person, because the elements existed in him to be good.
(10) Interesting idea about Peter and Lily, but that would require more reading into the signs of just how Peter felt about Lily, which I don't recall reading, but I could have missed that detail. I think it all comes down to a matter of respect, or rather valuing someone's abilities in just how much they can serve Voldemort. This is a sign of respect that Voldemort gives to whoever asked to spare Lily's life, and I still believe it's Snape, considering that Peter was willing to hand over his best friend to Voldemort that I can't imagine him wanting to save a woman, but also because if it's true that Voldemort and Snape had that conversation, it could only have occured at once scene-before he killed Lily. This could be argued, because I haven't read it through enough to back it up, but I think Voldy and Snape talked about this before he killed Lily, and Snape seemed to resign himself and agree to Voldy because he had no choice, THEN went to Dumbledore for help. Snape was very good at keeping a low profile, hence why he wouldn't have hurt Peter because memory alterations can be detected (as was seen with Slughorn) and a death is too easy to notice and investigate, especially with how much Peter did for Voldemort. But getting back to it all, this point is arguable. If you can present me with the evidence to where Peter would have loved Lily in a matter that Snape did, I'll take a look into it, but in the meantime, I'm going to stand by Voldemort asking Lily to step aside because Snape asked him to.
(11) Patronus spells have been known to change forms, very rarely, but it can happen when something drastic happens. Rowling once explained that the reason the Order of the Phoenix uses patronus spells to communicate is because they're the essence of good and pure magic. The complete opposite of the dark arts, so there's a problem immediately with the death eaters using them. Also, what need would a death eater have for one if the dementors work for Voldemort? I wouldn't worry about Snape trying to conjure one in front of death eaters because it seems needless and foolish to prove that he has a tie to the "good" side of magic. And Harry's patronus in book 3 was a stag, for his father. I don't recall any mention of his mother's patronus. However, it would be interesting to know what her true shape was, and if the patronus doe was for her patronus doe, or if Snape just thought of her as his doe.

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Part 3
(Anonymous)
2007-07-29 04:32 am UTC (link)
(12) Snape and Lily weren't best friends at the OWLs. In fact, signs had been showing for years that their friendship was slipping due to the Slytherins that Lily hung around. She distanced herself so much from them because she could sense in them the potential to become death eaters and knew that they hated her and her kind for their birth, which is a frightening and horrific endeavor. She tried to talk to Snape about it, and you do make light that he might have been actually listening, because he didn't give a cold-hearted retort but rather met her with silence, but by the time that he screamed "Mudblood" at her, it was it for an important reason. She had been questioning Snape on whether or not he believed that mudblood stuff and thought the same of her, and each time he answered no. However, in a fit of anger, when people tend to be the most blunt and truthful (kind of like being drunk, really :P :P), he screamed it, which she took as enough answer for her question. She also could have interpreted, and I believe she did because of how smart she was, as Snape lying to her all this time. As for why she didn't save him from James, I have a few ideas. Such as, she was trying to make James do it himself and justify himself, or who knows really. That much I haven't looked into or thought too much on, sorry.
(13) Rowling didn't adore Sirius-she's come out on her site and said that she actually didn't care much for Sirius and was surprised to see how popular he became.
(14) Dumbledore didn't warn Snape about the wand because he even said towards the end of the book that he hadn't considered it to be a problem, that things went out of his control a handful of times, or beyond what he had expected. Dumbledore wasn't perfect; Deathy Hallows painted a clearer picture of that in him than the other books, and my regret with reading about Dumbledore was that Rowling didn't start painting this more human side of him earlier. I could see hints of it in Order of the Phoenix, which would have been an excellent place to start. It would be when the kids were finally starting to see adults as equal and realize that even professors make mistakes. However, I think that Rowling could have gone a whole lot more into Dumbledore's imperfections earlier on.

If there's anything that I didn't interpret correctly, I apologize, and I appreciate your insight on the book. I always love hearing what people have to say about books. I would like to close on a few things.
-Rowling wasn't the best writer, but she did have a lot of great ideas and remained very true to her characters. My problem with her writing was that it was rife with plot holes, and I was so peeved at Dobby for being her save-the-day Deus Ex Machina trump card that I was actually cheering by the time he died.
-She has had numerous contradictions, within chapters alone. Some of my favorites were how Minerva told Harry in book 5 that there hasn't been anyone inducted to being an auror in three years, while in the same book, Tonks says she became an auror a year ago. Also, in the Deathly Hallows, Harry thinks about what the Dursleys are going to do with all the school items he leaves behind when he's gone, but a page or so later, you find out the Dursleys are planning to leave before him to go into hiding, and no one has any idea when or if they'll ever get to come back to this house. So yes, she does have contradictions, but she's always remained true to her characters, and I give her credit for that. I just wish sometimes she wouldn't have so many characters, because while there are writers who can pull it off, most writers that have a cast this big only end up making their story more murky and cumbersome. The fourth movie was proof enough that Dobby was needless, but enough attacking Dobby.

Once more, nice input--and if there's anything inconsistent with my argument, feel free to point it out. Sorry for crazy typos. I quickly threw this together and didn't watch my grammar or typing much because it's 12:30 am and I haven't gotten more than 2 hours of sleep in the last 48 hours. In fact, bed sounds nice.

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(Anonymous)
2007-07-29 08:20 pm UTC (link)
Why did Moody use Snape's Langlock curse in 12 Grimmauld Place? From Snape's 6th year Potions book? How the hell would Moody know that curse in the first place?!?

He didn't. He used a Tongue-Tying curse. Langlock glues the tongue to the roof of the mouth, the book clearly states that their tongues roll up on themselves. Different curses.

And Snape can't tell the other Death Eaters because of the aformentioned Tongue-Tying curse (which prevents him from talking about Grimmauld Place). If he can't tell them the Secret, they can't find Grimmauld Place.

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Tongue-tied
(Anonymous)
2007-08-01 01:07 am UTC (link)
There are two problems with the argument that Moody's Tongue-Tying curse would have stopped Snape telling the other Death Eaters:

1) He could have brought them with him in the first place, ie before being exposed to Moody's curse

2) He doesn't need to TELL them; he can just Side-Along Apparate people to the top step, the way Hermione did by accident later, or he can write it down.

To my mind, the Order members' acceptance of Grimmauld Place as "safe" was one of the major plotholes in the book. If Snape had really been on Voldemort's side, the trio would have been snaffled as soon as they walked in there.

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[info]the_bitter_word
2007-07-29 10:28 pm UTC (link)
I know a lot of people are making peace with DH, and good for them, but I just can't do it. For me, the gaps are too big to be filled in by brilliant meta or resilient denial. After a week, I still second everything you've written.

As for timeline anomalies, when did The Prank take place, before or after Snape's Worst Memory? The Lexicon still has it afterwards, but DH implies it happened before, because Lily knows that James saved Severus' life (some secret)! Anyway, Black was supposedly 16 when the Prank occurred, and he was born in June, so it seems it would have to be after Snape's Worst Memory, or the Marauders had an incredibly busy June endangering Snape. Further, James would have been attacking Snape "because he exists" after saving his life? What a guy. And Lupin is still just sitting there after being set up by Black? Well, with his characterization in DH, I guess so.

Lily seemed like a horrible friend to Snape, a nag who could only find fault with him. To have him cling to that pathetic excuse for friendship -- well, I wouldn't have bothered, but someone on my journal said he must have had low self-esteem. I think it just as easily could boil down to poor writing and JKR's loathing for the character she created. But he was a Slytherin, you know, so a creep from the age of 11.

If you don't mind, I may rec this at [info]dh_oh_shit.

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[info]jamaisneutral
2007-07-29 10:42 pm UTC (link)
Thank you! Yes! That's what I wanted to say.
*feels vindicated somehow*

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[info]slashpine
2007-07-29 11:36 pm UTC (link)
WORD. Actually you wrote so many good words, I'm not sure where to start -- and not enuf time now -- but this one thing?

And then there's the utter creepiness of naming brother-and-sister after husband-and-wife. *shudders* But I shouldn't be surprised, since Ginny is just the Oedipus complex made flesh.

OMG yes. I'm so glad you mentioned Ginny especially. Harry's Molly clone to have the "happy family" that's "all he ever wanted" (JKR interview), in which he has the same role he dreamed about as a wee firstie gazing into the Mirror of Erised: little boy Harry taken care of by Mum and Dad.

So now he has Ginny to play Molly-Mum, and the James and Lily roles have been recreated too! I guess Albus Severus's role is to be the new Marauder-bully victim, and clearly young James has got that off to a good start.

I found that wrap-up particularly disturbing. Or at least - if the books are going to begin and end as a fluffy teen-fantasy "let's gwow up and play house, but we'll still have mommy to, you know, cook us dinner and daddy to buy us brooms" -- there should be no pretence that they're also about maturing and learning to take responsibility for moral decisions, respectful friendship, etc. Because when 7 books are done and it all comes down to the Smeckilogue, that hasn't happened.

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[info]janlowell
2007-07-30 12:22 am UTC (link)
I can't help but wish that there was a way to ensure that Rowling eventually sees this.

Your points are well reasoned, and logical; I commend you for this.

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[info]firefly_124
2007-07-30 12:24 am UTC (link)
Excellent points, all.

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[info]duniazade
2007-07-30 12:26 am UTC (link)
Yes, yes, yes, to everything. Thank you.

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